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Comparing Bush and McCain

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Democrats say that electing John McCain would bring the equivalent of a third Bush term, while Republicans say these charges are just political spin. Here is where Mr. McCain and Mr. Bush stand on key issues.

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{"commentId":2001342,"authorDomain":"Mars313"}

They ONLY agree on:

Abortion
Medicare
Iraq
Iran
Gay Marriage
Supreme Court judges
No Child Left Behind
Immigration
The abolishment of habeas corpus for Gitmo detainees
The destruction of Social Security for my generation
Tax cuts for the super-rich
free trade
warrantless wiretapping
and Executive Powers

....you know, the small issues.

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Reply#1 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:29 AM EDT
{"commentId":2001594,"authorDomain":"keggerlord-1"}

On Abortion:
In 1999, McCain said of Roe v. Wade, "I'd love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations."

On Medicare:
On April 29, 2008, McCain detailed his health care plan in the context of his campaign for President. His plan focused on open-market competition rather than government funding or control. At the heart of his plan are tax credits - $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families who do not subscribe to or do not have access to health care through their employer. He says the money could be used to purchase insurance and force insurance companies to be competitive with their costs in order to attract consumers

Iraq:
On January 3, 2008 at a campaign stop in Derry, New Hampshire, when a questioner said, "President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years," McCain responded: "Make it a hundred. We've been in Japan for 60 years, we've been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That'd be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That's fine with me. I hope it will be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping, and motivating people every single day."

Iran:
McCain has said that "We continue to be concerned about Iranian influence and assistance to Hezbollah as well as Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons." McCain has also said "the military option cannot be taken off the table" in dealing with Iran, although he sees it as a "last option".

Gay Marriage:
In 2004, McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment, arguing that each state should be able to choose whether to recognize same-sex marriage.
On the Ellen Degeneres Show May 22, 2008, McCain said that people ought to be able to enter "legal agreements...particularly in the case of insurance and other areas", but that the "unique status of marriage" should be retained between a man and a woman." (Jay notes: Well, you can't win 'em all...)

The rest of it is available here: Wikipedia (with sources cited) Not saying that linking a candidate to an incumbent president with a 30% approval rating is a blatant attempt at character assassination, but.... well, it's interesting to note that John McCain is referred to as "Mr. John McCain" throughout the article while Barak Obama is referred to as "Senator Barak Obama". Last time I checked, both men deserved the honorarium title of Senator.

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Reply#2 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:16 AM EDT
{"commentId":2001636,"authorDomain":"Mars313"}
Iran:
McCain has said that "We continue to be concerned about Iranian influence and assistance to Hezbollah as well as Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons." McCain has also said "the military option cannot be taken off the table" in dealing with Iran, although he sees it as a "last option".

You left out the part where he sang "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" then chuckled as if dropping bombs on people is funny or something to take lightly. Defend that.

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#2.1 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:21 AM EDT
{"commentId":2001659,"authorDomain":"keggerlord-1"}

What's to defend? He made a joke in poor taste. I'll ask him to write you a letter of apology for having a poor sense of humor if I ever meet him.

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#2.2 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:24 AM EDT
{"commentId":2001686,"authorDomain":"Mars313"}

I think setting people's homes on fire while they are asleep is funny. Should I show him MY joke?

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#2.3 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:27 AM EDT
{"commentId":2001831,"authorDomain":"keggerlord-1"}

No, because showing him your joke is called "indecent exposure", Mars.

(see? Now that was funny!)

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#2.4 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:47 AM EDT
{"commentId":2001862,"authorDomain":"Mars313"}
(see? Now that was funny!)

I'm sorry, but I don't find 7th grade potty-humor very funny, I'm an adult.

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#2.5 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:51 AM EDT
{"commentId":2001881,"authorDomain":"keggerlord-1"}

Really? I'm an adult and I think 7th grade potty humor is the highest form of the art of comedic expression. Oh well, like I said, you can't win 'em all....

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#2.6 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:54 AM EDT
{"commentId":2002111,"authorDomain":"Mars313"}

I know what you mean, I am more into violent humor with lots of victims. I saw this skit where dead contractors were burned and drug through the streets of some third-world country, @!$%#ing h-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s!!!!!

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#2.7 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
{"commentId":2002182,"authorDomain":"keggerlord-1"}

Cool! I have this great video of protesters at the WTO getting pepper-sprayed and smacked in their empty heads with clubs. I'll forward it on to you. Should be right up your alley!

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#2.8 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:28 AM EDT
{"commentId":2002289,"authorDomain":"Mars313"}

That's gay, man. If nobody dies, don't waste my time. Got any good footage of troops being blown apart?

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#2.9 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
{"commentId":2003374,"authorDomain":"keggerlord-1"}

Insurgent ones, yes.

Also, for a liberal, you sure use the term "gay" as if it's a perjorative. Not very open minded, are you?

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#2.10 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":2003950,"authorDomain":"Mars313"}

Ummmm, when did I say I was a "liberal"?

we're not making assumptions are we?

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    #2.11 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:48 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2493312,"authorDomain":"pacrat100"}

    And I thought my humor was pretty poor... At least I'm one up on somebody :)

    The destruction of Social Security for my generation

    You can actually blame congress for that one, it was turning a profit so they put it into general funds. I think it was the democrats that year (mid to late 60's) Guess they never thought it'd be needed in the future. And the major parties in congress used future social security funds in the late 70's through mid 80's as collateral for debts.

    Tax cuts for the super-rich

    Maybe one day they'll go with a flat tax without deductions 15% of $20,000 is $3000 15% of a million is $150,000
    Sounds kinda fair to me.... with all those deductions out there a person making a million can get away with paying far less... Oh, forgot to mention that both parties are responsible for all those deduction they can get away with. It's called lobbyists...

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